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Narutoscryed · Oct 16, 2006, 02:37 PM // 14:37

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That's the problem, other players are obviously asshats. Look at this thread. People are complaining because they can only sell items for 10-30k instead of 70-100+k. They need to permanently increase the drop rates of greens tocap the insane economy since they refuse to add any sort of cross-continent, cross-server trading system like an auction house that might help put a lid on it.

well mr t you proved that your the only asshat here (whatever that means)

If you look at the definition of the item color system. it goes like this..

Common(white)
Uncommon(blue)
Grape

(purple)
Rare (gold)
Uniqe (green)

Greens are thought of as uniqe items. now they are just merchant fodder 90% of the time.. you say also that people complain cause they can only sell greens now for 10-30k...

the only greens worth more than 10k now are rotscales bow (maybee) and the urgoz stuff..

other than that its all merchant fodder in my opinion..

and unlike your poor ass.. most of us would rather go have fun then sit and try to squeez 2-5k out of a hard to sell green in town...

so stop being mean in all your posts

besides i hear the real mr T is actually nice in real life.

FalconDance · Oct 16, 2006, 02:56 PM // 14:56

There ARE good people in this game. A friend and I were chatting ingame and she asked me if I'd gotten my greens. I told her no but that was ok...did she happen to have a certain collector's drop (I didn't have quite enough for the staff I was looking at). Next thing I know, she *gives* me a Stonereaper AND a Ghials .... just because she won't use them and was lucky over the weekend on her *one* run for greens!

*sigh*

(Yes, she is a superb person both ingame and out)

XvArchonvX · Oct 16, 2006, 03:08 PM // 15:08

I personally enjoyed the fact that greens dropped in price, but the worst thing about this event is the people crying about not being able to sell their greens for high prices. Someone actually posted saying that they should have sold their Ghials for 50k before the weekend which honestly made me laugh since there has always been at least 3 people in Kaineng d1 spamming "WTS Ghial's Staff 30k! Best MM Staff in Game!". I bought mine for 25k a month ago with minimal haggling and had 3 whispers after one post of WTB.

I do however hope that there arises some form of non-UW/SF farming that becomes profitable someday that is not solo since some of my most enjoyable moments were 5-man farming greens in SF when it opened up.

MadWook · Oct 16, 2006, 03:17 PM // 15:17

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Originally Posted by Soccer55

I believe this was exactly the intent. Look at the timing of the event: 2 weeks before Nightfall goes live. This weekend allowed people to have a better chance of getting the greens that they've wanted since Factions was released, but were unable to get thus far. Then when Nightfall goes live, all of the people whining about not being able to take tens of platinum from the poor will have a new set of greens to farm up and sell to other players for outrageous prices (through spamming their ad in the all channel of course).

-Tom

I have to agree with you. Its all part of the plan by Anet to make greens common in factions and to get players to purchase Nightfall and hustle so you can farm those, and make back your money.

unienaule · Oct 16, 2006, 03:26 PM // 15:26

Was there this event in Prophecies? No. Did people rush to farm greens in Factions anyway because they were new? Yes. Nuff said.

Tetris L · Oct 16, 2006, 03:28 PM // 15:28

It's funny, really. Greedy farmers and traders got busted.

Before, when Gaile Gray asked for ideas for a Double Fun Weekend, all the farmers were asking for a double green drop weekend. The more, the merrier.

Afterwards, when they got what they wanted, the same farmers now complain that the prices dropped.

LOL, what were you expecting?? A license to print money? It's supply and demand. Look it up.

There's a saying in German: "Wash me, but don't make me wet!" Doesn't work.

Braggi · Oct 16, 2006, 03:34 PM // 15:34

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Originally Posted by Narutoscryed

If you look at the definition of the item color system. it goes like this..

Common(white)
Uncommon(blue)
Grape

(purple)
Rare (gold)
Uniqe (green)

Greens are thought of as uniqe items.

The problem with your list is that you imply a ranking order that doesn't exist in GW. Uniques are the same level as golds - but they are predefined in skin and properties, kind of a standard quality. They are the benchmark.
Rares don't have these standards, but may reach or surpass the same quality and can be individualy modded and offer different skins, so the perfect rare may well beat the pants off any unique...

Phoenix Ex · Oct 16, 2006, 03:37 PM // 15:37

Pfft....unsalvagable, unmoddable, undyable weapons should never be that expensive in the first place. I mean WTF, some green weapons were more expensive than some GOLD weapons out there

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Prices for green would definately rebound after this event, because it is ridiculously hard to farm the green at the old drop rate. Farm sskai twice, no drop, and the third time, Anti-farm code kicks in already. All the newer players coming in are going to demand those greens and the price will probably rise to reflect that. (Althought definately NOT as much, and that's as it should be).

Now...hopefully the same won't happen to gold weapons

.

JimmyDean · Oct 16, 2006, 03:40 PM // 15:40

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Originally Posted by Tetris L

It's funny, really. Greedy farmers and traders got busted.

Before, when Gaile Gray asked for ideas for a Double Fun Weekend, all the farmers were asking for a double green drop weekend. The more, the merrier.

Afterwards, when they got what they wanted, the same farmers now complain that the prices dropped.

LOL, what were you expecting?? A license to print money? It's supply and demand. Look it up.

There's a saying in German: "Wash me, but don't make me wet!" Doesn't work.

I solo farm quite a bit. It's how I make my money, so you could call me a farmer. I dont recall asking for double green drop weekend, let alone triple. The thing is, troll farming outside of Droks has become more profitable than farming most of the greens in Cantha, which I find absolutely absurd. Why gives these items a rare/unique skin, perfect mods, and make some of them extremely difficult to procure if theyre meant to be for poor players? Greens aren't meant for anyone specifically. They're simply a reward for playing the game.

Phoenix Ex · Oct 16, 2006, 03:44 PM // 15:44

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Originally Posted by JimmyDean

Why gives these items a rare/unique skin, perfect mods, and make some of them extremely difficult to procure if theyre meant to be for poor players? Greens aren't meant for anyone specifically. They're simply a reward for playing the game.

Which is why they should increase the drop rate to 10x and keep it permanently that way....that is assuming they are going to keep gold weapon as rare as it is now....

JimmyDean · Oct 16, 2006, 03:45 PM // 15:45

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex

Pfft....unsalvagable, unmoddable, undyable weapons should never be that expensive in the first place. I mean WTF, some green weapons were more expensive than some GOLD weapons out there

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Prices for green would definately rebound after this event, because it is ridiculously hard to farm the green at the old drop rate. Farm sskai twice, no drop, and the third time, Anti-farm code kicks in already. All the newer players coming in are going to demand those greens and the price will probably rise to reflect that. (Althought definately NOT as much, and that's as it should be).

Now...hopefully the same won't happen to gold weapons

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And that is why greens demand such high prices in some cases. They are highly sought after, and supply is limited.

JimmyDean · Oct 16, 2006, 03:49 PM // 15:49

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Ex

Which is why they should increase the drop rate to 10x and keep it permanently that way....that is assuming they are going to keep gold weapon as rare as it is now....

If you just want a max weapon or shield to use on your pve char, just pick up a collector item for 500g-1k in items, and add 1 point from perfect mods. It costs alot less, and will function almost exactly the same as a perfect item.
Don't whine that you cant afford x, y, or z. Get the money or farm it.

Perfect weapons for pvp isn't a valid argument, since you can just make a pvp character and have all perfect items anyways.

Mr.H.Mishima · Oct 16, 2006, 03:52 PM // 15:52

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Originally Posted by led-zep

just because some fool says 'sunreach shield is worth 15k' doesnt mean you have to sell it to him for it as more often or not he's scamming and will then sell it on for a profit.

How in the world is that a scam? It's basic economics. Buy low, sell high.

JimmyDean · Oct 16, 2006, 03:57 PM // 15:57

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Originally Posted by Hells Last Survivor

How in the world is that a scam? It's basic economics. Buy low, sell high.

Most people don't understand this simple concept. One of my guildies was selling gold dye he mixed up for 700g or so. Another guy came up and told him he was a scammer because the dye only cost around 300g to make.

There are alot of stupid people playing Guild Wars.

Former Ruling · Oct 16, 2006, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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Originally Posted by JimmyDean

I solo farm quite a bit. It's how I make my money, so you could call me a farmer. I dont recall asking for double green drop weekend, let alone triple. The thing is, troll farming outside of Droks has become more profitable than farming most of the greens in Cantha, which I find absolutely absurd. Why gives these items a rare/unique skin, perfect mods, and make some of them extremely difficult to procure if theyre meant to be for poor players? Greens aren't meant for anyone specifically. They're simply a reward for playing the game.

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"Why gives these items a rare/unique skin, perfect mods, and make some of them extremely difficult to procure if theyre meant to be for poor players? "

Rare/unique skin - Most greens don't have "rare/unique" skins, and the ones that do fall right into my original statement that the game allows for SOME greens to have more than basic usage.

Perfect mods - Anet's mission statement is balance among the game, Giving the poorer players the same "perfect" choices for mods as the people that can afford to pay 60k+ for a fortitude mod is right in line with that statement.

extremely difficult to procure - They are not extremely difficult to get. Look at a green by its market value, not how many times you have to kill a boss to get it. If a green takes 50 times killing a boss to get, but I can farm something easy like trolls a few times and just buy it - It is still Easy to get by the masses.

Anyway, this whole post seems to have the same attitude of "Why shouldn't they have to pay 100k+ for these items" that most farmers are blindly throwing around >_>

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How in the world is that a scam? It's basic economics. Buy low, sell high.

I think he was refering not to the price he was asking, but to the WAY he went about it.

Example: From a moral standpoint theres a HUGE difference between selling a junky car for alot and calling it good luck/profit, and LYING to a person saying the car is good just SO they'll buy it for that higher price (decieving them), when it is really junk.

Eitherway, you are right on this point, since his example was bad...sunreach really is around 15k which makes the rest of the post a mute point..

JimmyDean · Oct 16, 2006, 04:12 PM // 16:12

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

Specifcally:
"Why gives these items a rare/unique skin, perfect mods, and make some of them extremely difficult to procure if theyre meant to be for poor players? "

Rare/unique skin - Most greens don't have "rare/unique" skins, and the ones that do fall right into my original statement that the game allows for SOME greens to have more than basic usage.

Perfect mods - Anet's mission statement is balance among the game, Giving the poorer players the same "perfect" choices for mods as the people that can afford to pay 60k+ for a fortitude mod is right in line with that statement.

extremely difficult to procure - They are not extremely difficult to get. Look at a green by its market value, not how many times you have to kill a boss to get it. If a green takes 50 times killing a boss to get, but I can farm something easy like trolls a few times and just buy it - It is still Easy to get by the masses.

Anyway, this whole post seems to have the same attitude of "Why shouldn't they have to pay 100k+ for these items" that most farmers are blindly throwing around >_>

"Perfect mods - Anet's mission statement is balance among the game, Giving the poorer players the same "perfect" choices for mods as the people that can afford to pay 60k+ for a fortitude mod is right in line with that statement. "

This is what collectors and crafters are for.

"Rare/unique skin - Most greens don't have "rare/unique" skins, and the ones that do fall right into my original statement that the game allows for SOME greens to have more than basic usage."

All the greens that are worth anything have a rare/unique skin, or are very hard to farm. Kanaxai, Urgoz, Kaolin, Sunreach, Kunvie, Rajazan and others have unique/rare skins with nice mods. These could bring in a decent profit.

"extremely difficult to procure - They are not extremely difficult to get. Look at a green by its market value, not how many times you have to kill a boss to get it. If a green takes 50 times killing a boss to get, but I can farm something easy like trolls a few times and just buy it - It is still Easy to get by the masses."

I should have been more clear. By procure I meant kill the monster and get the item, not go to kaineng-1 and buy it. By that reasoning a req 8 15^50 20/20 +30 crystalline should be easy to procure; just go buy it.

"Anyway, this whole post seems to have the same attitude of "Why shouldn't they have to pay 100k+ for these items" that most farmers are blindly throwing around >_>"

I'm not interested in selling items above thier value. I mainly farmed sunreach and the Kaolin items, and sold them at the low value on the gwg price check for a quick sell. The generic "Farmers are evil because they wont give me items for free" argument is getting old. Generalizing like that makes you look like a fool, especially when what youre saying isn't true in most cases.

JimmyDean · Oct 16, 2006, 04:18 PM // 16:18

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

EDIT:

I think he was refering not to the price he was asking, but to the WAY he went about it.

Example: From a moral standpoint theres a HUGE difference between selling a junky car for alot and calling it good luck/profit, and LYING to a person saying the car is good just SO they'll buy it for that higher price (decieving them), when it is really junk.

Eitherway, you are right on this point, since his example was bad...sunreach really is around 15k which makes the rest of the post a moot point..

You can't hide the stats of an item. What you see is what you get, so your argument doesn't really apply.

some guy · Oct 16, 2006, 04:20 PM // 16:20

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Originally Posted by Soccer55

I believe this was exactly the intent. Look at the timing of the event: 2 weeks before Nightfall goes live. This weekend allowed people to have a better chance of getting the greens that they've wanted since Factions was released, but were unable to get thus far. Then when Nightfall goes live, all of the people whining about not being able to take tens of platinum from the poor will have a new set of greens to farm up and sell to other players for outrageous prices (through spamming their ad in the all channel of course).

-Tom

I agree with you.

Alleji · Oct 16, 2006, 04:21 PM // 16:21

I was surprised how many people still tried to sell their veras for 30-50k... at least 80% of GW population doesn't get the basics of economy, apparently.

Tainek · Oct 16, 2006, 04:23 PM // 16:23

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Originally Posted by JimmyDean

If you just want a max weapon or shield to use on your pve char, just pick up a collector item for 500g-1k in items, and add 1 point from perfect mods. It costs alot less, and will function almost exactly the same as a perfect item.
Don't whine that you cant afford x, y, or z. Get the money or farm it.

Perfect weapons for pvp isn't a valid argument, since you can just make a pvp character and have all perfect items anyways.

the day pvp toons can carry four full weapon sets and change runes+ armour this will be a valid point, mkay?

Oct 16, 2006, 02:56 PM // 14:56	#82
FalconDance Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: ...deep within the sylvan splendor... Guild: Order of the Migrating Coconuts [ALBA]	There ARE good people in this game. A friend and I were chatting ingame and she asked me if I'd gotten my greens. I told her no but that was ok...did she happen to have a certain collector's drop (I didn't have quite enough for the staff I was looking at). Next thing I know, she gives me a Stonereaper AND a Ghials .... just because she won't use them and was lucky over the weekend on her one run for greens! sigh (Yes, she is a superb person both ingame and out)

Oct 16, 2006, 03:08 PM // 15:08	#83
XvArchonvX Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: R/	I personally enjoyed the fact that greens dropped in price, but the worst thing about this event is the people crying about not being able to sell their greens for high prices. Someone actually posted saying that they should have sold their Ghials for 50k before the weekend which honestly made me laugh since there has always been at least 3 people in Kaineng d1 spamming "WTS Ghial's Staff 30k! Best MM Staff in Game!". I bought mine for 25k a month ago with minimal haggling and had 3 whispers after one post of WTB. I do however hope that there arises some form of non-UW/SF farming that becomes profitable someday that is not solo since some of my most enjoyable moments were 5-man farming greens in SF when it opened up.

Oct 16, 2006, 03:26 PM // 15:26	#85
unienaule I dunt even get "Retired" Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]	Was there this event in Prophecies? No. Did people rush to farm greens in Factions anyway because they were new? Yes. Nuff said.

Oct 16, 2006, 03:28 PM // 15:28	#86
Tetris L Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Guild: Servants of Fortuna	It's funny, really. Greedy farmers and traders got busted. Before, when Gaile Gray asked for ideas for a Double Fun Weekend, all the farmers were asking for a double green drop weekend. The more, the merrier. Afterwards, when they got what they wanted, the same farmers now complain that the prices dropped. LOL, what were you expecting?? A license to print money? It's supply and demand. Look it up. There's a saying in German: "Wash me, but don't make me wet!" Doesn't work.

Oct 16, 2006, 03:37 PM // 15:37	#88
Phoenix Ex Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: Mo/R	Pfft....unsalvagable, unmoddable, undyable weapons should never be that expensive in the first place. I mean WTF, some green weapons were more expensive than some GOLD weapons out there . Prices for green would definately rebound after this event, because it is ridiculously hard to farm the green at the old drop rate. Farm sskai twice, no drop, and the third time, Anti-farm code kicks in already. All the newer players coming in are going to demand those greens and the price will probably rise to reflect that. (Althought definately NOT as much, and that's as it should be). Now...hopefully the same won't happen to gold weapons .

Oct 16, 2006, 04:21 PM // 16:21	#99
Alleji Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006	I was surprised how many people still tried to sell their veras for 30-50k... at least 80% of GW population doesn't get the basics of economy, apparently.